at least healthy comments come from some church leader ship although police should not be trapped by manipulation of lure of violent eviction

OWS IS SIMPLY STATIC MANNER OF THREATENING TO OUR ECONOMY, WHICH ALSO INTENDS TO MANIPULATE POLICE TO USE VIOLENCE TO MAKE the reasons to "convince" PEOPLE as if police were as if "enemy" to justify their act of crime to urge people to BURST OUT in riots or something on wrong or ungrounded reasons.
As you read in the following article, the faith in peace and rationality is protected although many have been trapped into the very much its disguise of "left-ish liberali-sh" "protest"ish way of "movement" which is simply aiming at damaging economy, taxation and monetary system that has circulated money in a balanced manner to each ability and succeeded possessions and has protected all. OWS is not anti-capitalism, no. OWS is nothing do with socialism or comunism. OWS is actually anti-socialism or say, anti-taxation system and monetary system which both have been helping out almost all the people who do not possess much but his/her own ability to work/create for others and earn money. 


OWS is actually trying to delete all the people on the globe by demolishing the most excellent systems - taxation and monetary - to have kept almost all the people being survived by the circulation of money, and public budget and supports underpinned by taxation. But, somehow, the people fascinated by ows do not seem to realize it, which is quite sad.


So. police should be very much careful in the manner of eviction of them. Avoid any violent manner very carefully.
All the nations should have learnt from the dragging economy Thai case which was, as far as i know, the first case of occupation terrorism.
The Thai government had been so patient probably because the government has studied and been prepared for such terrorism pattern of static and "peaceful" but threatening to economy and normal way of life of the people of the nation.


Be careful not to let ows to burst out by any of violent conducts from police and/or government but also not to be bent by such nasty ows fraudulent way of harassment and/or disturbance in the disguise of "helping powerless" or "act of powerless".


And again, it could not be emphasized more that police should be very very very much careful when police evicts the "protesters". 
Police should be sticking to the manner of non-violence as possible as the police can, or say, definitely. 
In the first place, police should avoid any types of violent manners at any procedures in their duties, which is a norm of police activities. 
And it is not stressed more, i would say,that it is more so especially for the case of ows. even i sense that it could be deemed as another threatening by such a "static" manner of threatening in the disguise of "protesting". 


And such mimic "protesting" is actually intending to harm the real genuine political protests, which is much concerned.
That is the saddest damage by terrorism ows - such a "protest""movements" fixed by far right GOP and/or far right parties whose aim is damaging fair/equal social policies that actually help out real powerless.

Bishop defends 'prudent' legal steps for possible eviction of St Paul's camp Lizzy Davies and Haroon Siddique · 30/10/2011 · guardian.co.uk
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(re-post) ows disguises "religion" "inclusive" rather simply disturbance aiming at manipulating ppl to hate each other to destroy the nation or earth..which is not acceptable for anyone.

(i re-post exactly same one which i posted here again which was a bit difficult to read due to the small size of characters and back ground colors that was html left for what i firstly wrote it on the wall of my face account - so i re-post it in the bigger size of characters without html processes under face wall what i wrote for firstly in response to an article by guardian uk telling about the simple and highly expected facts of the supporting ows by some of leaders of (i should add this here, i would say- far right) Christians who are intending to damage, in a static but intentionally harassing way, Obama administration, and his re-election, by attacking at the core of economy and discriminate powerful Jewish/Asian(Indian/Chinese)l.ed Wall-Street/City as well as discriminate many banking industries by Europeans, Christians, Russians and Islams including Germans who all are supporting/sponsoring many of fair humane and borderless global economy / global business and borderless humane activities via such as UN and the US Obama human right protection initiative foreign policy under the laws by obama administration along with and other human right protection NGOs...

And you should realize ows is "protesting"against the powerful influential that are mainly Jewish humane and richest who are protecting the world, literally, by fighting against all the gangs who are, in a bad ill-evil way, very powerful and influential)

Now, ows shows its real color. ows is now much more clearly simply far right mob crime composed of far discriminative AGAINST liberal, pro-gay rights, pro-social policy, pro-tax hike on the riches (such as Jewish or new comer the richest proposing raise of tax ratio to the richest layer) pro-obama medicare policy which includes all as possible as the govt. can.


i would say, during all the one month, what ows did was simply try and error to justify and penentrate far right nasty "approaches" to raise hate with envy or irrationality against anyone who should not be targeted or condemned, and to damage the economy until the end of president election campaign.


And now, the "christian" leaders come along with the "powerless" people.
Point is, to raise the sense of faith in religion to justify their hate and discrimination against the richest who are mainly the people in faith not in christianism, but, rather, many diverse ones.
Or another point is to convergent all the religious faith into tea-party (ows) fundamentalism and simply far right discriminative, irrational and unreasoned hate and envy against minorities such as gay rights or people in need public/private supports as a gate way to "foster" more hate and envy against others, which is a simple but nasty "tactics" developed by neo-natiz which even penentrates into Israel far rights.
But ows is every day "developing" to try to include more by changing the gauge to divide, hate and conflict each other by irrational and ungrounded leads called now "spiritual" - oh, no. it could be men vs women, it could be rich vs poor, it could be anything but point is to manipulate each other to damage and destroy the economy, the people, the budget and the countries, which is unacceptable for anyone.    

Ows is intentionally making the purpose vague because one of the motif of the ows disturbance is to pick up and collect more people into tea - party annoyance before the president campaign. tea - party lost its driving power because it simply is far-right violent racism and it was apparent now to many of the society. then, now the main party of ows is, as you know now, simply, tea-party who are middle middle class, independent self-employment people or small shop owners but ows is trying to re-organize it by manipulating and lure the youth people of unemployed and being on the verge of living belonging to many diverse religions and races in order to cover it up from far-right racism violent and ignorant selfishness tea-party "movement" by urging and broadening, or say, "including" (oh no) any race, any religion, any political status focusing on the people who are feeling as if s/he were left behind from the obama administration . i would say, "please be patient to the time effects from obama's policies will reach to you". ows is nothing more than simple far far right hardliner racism mob crime which damage the healthy economy and constructive law making in the disguise of "faith" or "caring" by exploiting any peaceful and constructive ideas to such a nasty discriminative "act of ill" harming others and economy in static "peaceful" means. ows is just another far-right terrorism but in the disguise of "peaceful", "spiritual" "caring" "love" "political" all the means that are imitating what the left or liberal wings have been in their real movements, grrrrrrrrruuuuruuuu!!!


you know, trying to, pathetically, stop the popular and quite highly capable president obama's win, far far right racism violent gop tea-party is doing anything even terrorism in disguising such mimmic-left-wingish "inclusive" ness "movement" to hate anything supportive obama administration, by physically attacking african american, by manipulating african american conflict with jewish rich liberal who are supportive to african american, manipulating asians conclict with jewish rich or african american by dividing them by the amount of annual income or so, not by religion or race...etc.


the desperate is the far far right physically violent gop-tea party's lies and demagogy, manipulation to lure people to hate each other to destroy the economy, budget, and ecological social policy that are sustaining all the people for better and stable that leads to the future of them and the nation.


Please see through the pathetic mimic/gimik of ows which are imitating all from the left-wing/liberal real demonstration/freedom of speech/fight for freedom/ reaching to and materializing social equality by social / legal policies in the process of democracy in the congress.


physical annoyance, either violent riots nor static occupation, will not work at all but for destroy of your future, your nation, your economy and your democracy by your votes, your political opinions, your political proposals that are to be convergence in the process of making laws in the congress. Commit to the JOB ACT and making laws in the congress in the process of democracy by proposing your political opinions that are political expression that are what democracy expected as primal means for normal state, in the first place although yes, demonstration permitted time span or political meetings are also political expressions only if they are having real genuine political opinions to seek, otherwise, just "meeting" raising hate and envy or irrational and unreasoned angers at anyone who are not supposed to be blamed, which is simply disguised political hate and discriminative anger mob.
And if such people continue occupying any areas of the nation except certain places of highly private areas with their permissions, which probably should be deemed as simply terrorism attaking the national economy and interests of all.


And as anyone all know, ows has been occupying public areas or private areas without any permissions and rather with rejection from the private areas' owners. Public places are not the places where public authority permit anyone's exclusive usage.
In any means, ows should not be allowed continued any more, which is simply new form of terrorism of damaging the economy and the interests of local and national people.


I would say,  real religious  leaders should leave from such act of terrorism because ows or such are not political expressions but raising mob crime to urge or manipulate hate and anger with manipulated demagogy. ows is not designed for the people but someone - far far right gop tea-party or simply neo-natiz - who plans to make all hate each other to destroy any country, which is opposite to the faith of any religion, i truly believe.

Peaceful or non-violent doesn't mean non-harming.
Occupying is actually damaging economy, jobs and wages in reality.,
And that is what OWS intends to because it is actually statically obstacle for the life and terroriging the life of being based on the economics, taxation, money and investment that are all protecting equally powerless and powerful by circulating the rich to each in a balanced manner.

ows is a sort of STATIC terrorism that is very much harming and very much threatening to anyone in the disguise of "protect the powerless"in the name of "god (now, any of god could be part of ows or tea party only it it is leading to far right fundamentalism against social policies, taxation, or monetary system because such fundamentalism aims to against, in the disguise of "fight for equality", agaisnt all the systems to support equality to survive all the people as possible as the system can)".... oh no.)

ows is intentionally forcing the police to use some sort of forcible arms and any police should be careful not to urged or manipulated to use any violent manners to any of ows. ows is waiting for the time the police uses any violent arms which definitely would lead to the reason of bursting out condemnation against polices and governments as it killed many of nations/cities of middle east. As it was seen in Thai land, all the police should be very much patient and cautious although it is very much annoying and damaging economy..... AND THE DAMAGE ON ECONOMY AND JOB ARE THE REASON OF OWS intentionally targeting the JOB ACT AND BETTER ACHIEVEMENTS BEFORE obama re-election....
sad world... sad and nasty ows....

ows disguises "religion" "inclusive" rather simply disturbance aiming at manipulating ppl to hate each other to destroy the nation or earth..which is not acceptable for anyone.

Now, ows shows its real color. ows is now much more clearly simply far right mob crime composed of far discriminative AGAINST liberal, pro-gay rights, pro-social policy, pro-tax hike on the riches (such as Jewish or new comer the richest proposing raise of tax ratio to the richest layer) pro-obama medicare policy which includes all as possible as the govt. can. 


i would say, during all the one month, what ows did was simply try and error to justify and penentrate far right nasty "approaches" to raise hate with envy or irrationality against anyone who should not be targeted or condemned, and to damage the economy until the end of president election campaign. 


And now, the "christian" leaders come along with the "powerless" people.
Point is, to raise the sense of faith in religion to justify their hate and discrimination against the richest who are mainly the people in faith not in christianism, but, rather, many diverse ones.
Or another point is to convergent all the religious faith into tea-party (ows) fundamentalism and simply far right discriminative, irrational and unreasoned hate and envy against minorities such as gay rights or people in need public/private supports as a gate way to "foster" more hate and envy against others, which is a simple but nasty "tactics" developed by neo-natiz which even penentrates into Israel far rights.
But ows is every day "developing" to try to include more by changing the gauge to divide, hate and conflict each other by irrational and ungrounded leads called now "spiritual" - oh, no. it could be men vs women, it could be rich vs poor, it could be anything but point is to manipulate each other to damage and destroy the economy, the people, the budget and the countries, which is unacceptable for anyone.       

Ows is intentionally making the purpose vague because one of the motif of the ows disturbance is to pick up and collect more people into tea - party annoyance before the president campaign. tea - party lost its driving power because it simply is far-right violent racism and it was apparent now to many of the society. then, now the main party of ows is, as you know now, simply, tea-party who are middle middle class, independent self-employment people or small shop owners but ows is trying to re-organize it by manipulating and lure the youth people of unemployed and being on the verge of living belonging to many diverse religions and races in order to cover it up from far-right racism violent and ignorant selfishness tea-party "movement" by urging and broadening, or say, "including" (oh no) any race, any religion, any political status focusing on the people who are feeling as if s/he were left behind from the obama administration . i would say, "please be patient to the time effects from obama's policies will reach to you". ows is nothing more than simple far far right hardliner racism mob crime which damage the healthy economy and constructive law making in the disguise of "faith" or "caring" by exploiting any peaceful and constructive ideas to such a nasty discriminative "act of ill" harming others and economy in static "peaceful" means. ows is just another far-right terrorism but in the disguise of "peaceful", "spiritual" "caring" "love" "political" all the means that are imitating what the left or liberal wings have been in their real movements, grrrrrrrrruuuuruuuu!!!


you know, trying to, pathetically, stop the popular and quite highly capable president obama's win, far far right racism violent gop tea-party is doing anything even terrorism in disguising such mimmic-left-wingish "inclusive" ness "movement" to hate anything supportive obama administration, by physically attacking african american, by manipulating african american conflict with jewish rich liberal who are supportive to african american, manipulating asians conclict with jewish rich or african american by dividing them by the amount of annual income or so, not by religion or race...etc.


the desperate is the far far right physically violent gop-tea party's lies and demagogy, manipulation to lure people to hate each other to destroy the economy, budget, and ecological social policy that are sustaining all the people for better and stable that leads to the future of them and the nation. 


Please see through the pathetic mimic/gimik of ows which are imitating all from the left-wing/liberal real demonstration/freedom of speech/fight for freedom/ reaching to and materializing social equality by social / legal policies in the process of democracy in the congress.


physical annoyance, either violent riots nor static occupation, will not work at all but for destroy of your future, your nation, your economy and your democracy by your votes, your political opinions, your political proposals that are to be convergence in the process of making laws in the congress. Commit to the JOB ACT and making laws in the congress in the process of democracy by proposing your political opinions that are political expression that are what democracy expected as primal means for normal state, in the first place although yes, demonstration permitted time span or political meetings are also political expressions only if they are having real genuine political opinions to seek, otherwise, just "meeting" raising hate and envy or irrational and unreasoned angers at anyone who are not supposed to be blamed, which is simply disguised political hate and discriminative anger mob. 
And if such people continue occupying any areas of the nation except certain places of highly private areas with their permissions, which probably should be deemed as simply terrorism attaking the national economy and interests of all.  


And as anyone all know, ows has been occupying public areas or private areas without any permissions and rather with rejection from the private areas' owners. Public places are not the places where public authority permit anyone's exclusive usage.
In any means, ows should not be allowed continued any more, which is simply new form of terrorism of damaging the economy and the interests of local and national people.


I would say,  real religious  leaders should leave from such act of terrorism because ows or such are not political expressions but raising mob crime to urge or manipulate hate and anger with manipulated demagogy. ows is not designed for the people but someone - far far right gop tea-party or simply neo-natiz - who plans to make all hate each other to destroy any country, which is opposite to the faith of any religion, i truly believe.

WAKE UP! MANY OF YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FIGHTING AGAINST TEA PARTY AND OWS, ACTIVE IN MOVEMENT TO PASS THE LAW JOB ACT, ACTUALLY, NO? YES...

ows is tea party gimmick but it seems to some, still, a big complicated?
But point is, president Obama and the people of the United States of America needs to bring the people of ows and tea party back to them for themselves and the nation, which is the most crucial point to tell here-


coz many of the people in ows and tea party - not all though - are supposed to be fighting for the real movement to let the job act pass the congress by partisan. 


ows is a gimmick by tea party but it does not seem to be obvious to some or many although it is too much obvious.
but it is ok, now it is at least getting some public consensus.
but thing is ... that is not enough to bring the people manipulated or thrown into the maze of confusion of "liberalism"ish "protest"ish movements back to the real movement to pass the job act walking with president obama for 2012 for the people, including themselves, and the nation, the United States of America.

ows employs fundamentalism and cultural "revolution" to hamper job act which actually circulates money via taxation from the 1% and that is the possible best to make equality in the world in balance for everyone.
ows actually tea party is because 1 ows hates taxation that is very much long tried and successful fair system to sustain equality between rich and poor simply because ows are the people who urged to be so much greed or say egoistic to request government not to use their tax to others but themselves. ows is actually quite highly inconsistent with their saying or say what ows protests at because job act is to work for the people of 99% on the grounds of tax hike on the richest and the richest are opening expressing that they are highly willing to pay more tax by raising the tax rates BEFORE the ows. ows is rather hampering the move from the richest to take up the bill for the job act and the job act itself to raise the numbers of the people to be exited from unemployment or to sustain their live and consumption in daily life until the time they find their jobs by the effects from the american job act. so everything what ows has been "Protesting" is opposing to what ows is standing for or seeking, as if, on the surface, to achieve. Actually, IT IS WALL STREET THAT had started EXPRESSing THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PAY TAX MORE FOR minimizing inequality BETWEEN RICH AND POOR LONG BEFORE ows started.
Say, ows is dirty sneaky and fraudulent in terms of its similarity which has taken up the idea from wall street and pre obama to hike tax rate on the richest and urge the private sectors to hire more to make more jobs for the people that would sustain the us economy at the end of the day ...and that definitely leads the better economy balance due to the better economic circulation serving for more tax to pay off the budget for the job act. say, good circulation should start here from job act.
and suddenly, ows started strange and irrational "movement" which actually damages the real movement from wall street and
pre obama job act.

simply saying, ows is blocking out exactly the means of solving the problem what tea party (ows) "Protest" from the opposite sides coz tea party (ows) seek to avoid such solution, any types of taxation for others but themselves. then, what happened?

part of the job act finds difficulties to be pass the congress now, which, as ows had intended in the first place,
broaden the gap between rich and poor as exactly tea party (ows) wished

the ows people, why dont you call yourself greed and selfish .... yes, ows people led by tea party are greed to the extent which crashes the taxation system to circulate to and balance the richness with the powerless unemployed people, with the mildest and fairest way called taxation. but tea party (ows) people do not care. coz the reason of the ows is simply crashing the job act which "takes up" "ur money" in the name of tax at least in your context and in your mind, which is not true though.

what ows hates to see is that every 1 penny is to be used for others but themselves.
Hey, hey, hey, such saying is having similarity with something expressed by the very very very rich and selfish people who do not need to be done anything by the national governments, and that is why, who do not want to pay even 1 penny to the government.

ows is sad and evil which kills only the small hope of the people who are seriously needing jobs and the CEOs of small but good firms who are willing to hire more but no remains left in budget to do so.

The saddest part is ... the selfishness among the tea party people who do not know that their small "rich"es damage their works by their "movement" "activity" of greed, which only functions for the very rich who do not need to any support from the government at all.,
i mean that rich people.,,,,
but not for the tea party people

the self-employed small business people who actually definitely need the consumption power of the jobless people or lowly paid people who many are supported by the government budget.

what tea party people should realize is that the budget mainly based on the taxation from you is actually functioning for you as the imperative money circulation for you tea party people to sustain your everyday life.

dont you realize?

but sadly, tea party disguising cultural "revolution"for tea party fundamentalism to crash all the taxation for them on the ground of their fundamentalism - the tax is not going to his/her pocket (not today but in a couple of years in your pocket, sir, madam) and "protesting" against job act which needs their tax money, and against wall street willing to pay more tax because  wall street were "swallowing" the bail out that were/are actually definitely needed for the nation and the people including tea party people, at the time to help the economy.

but again, tea party people are angry at wall street not because they take up the bill for the job act (which cannot be seen by tea party people due to fundamentalism) but because of the bail out budget even that is rational and imperative even not only for the economy but for themselves.

i am really concerned fundamentalism which damages brains and rationality no matter how s/he belongs to any nation/any economic system.

someone seems to kill this world not by the arms now, but in the long run, by the fundamentalism which kills brain normal rational function...  along with cocaine, heroin or cannabbis?
oh no. youth, don't kill your rationality and normal function of brain.
if you lost your normal function of brain, then, there is no exit from the hell.... of violence without limit from brain function to protect yourself from others' violence.

the worst enemy of human is fundamentalism and poison such as cannabis/cocaine/heroin etc... which all kills the normal function of your brain that works to protect you and others equally from violence, or annoyance and any other irrational damages..

we need to fight against fundamentalism in active/static(occupy) mob crimes which intends to damage the function of the town and economy which in reality harms job act and the supportive move in tax hike on the richest with the willingness and big supports from the richest including wall street.

president obama and the people of the US need to act together to fight against the harassment from ows which is disguising the poor powerless actually are powerless but selfish who seeks to crash tax hike on rich/richest... for the actual unemployed... despite the fact that the tax money going into promotion of employment definitely circulate to your pockets in the numbers of the revenue.

the budget goes into the people in need is not going to be dumped, no. the budget used for the people in need is circulated to the money to buy the goods and the numbers in the revenue of your shop, your company or your small firms. hey, wake up and realize. please. and stand up for yourself with the unemployed people with pre obama govt to pass the job act for yourself!

tea party people killing the hope for themselves by their hands.. which is so sad...
please do not lost in such manipulation

i think tea party people are definitely the people act together with the people who need to pass the american job act with president obama... truly believe so.

wake up from such manipulation of self-killing and go back to president obama who is able to help all of you out from the difficult situation of the united states of america if he can get your support only if you walk with him.
if you walk with him then the united states of american would not stop the greatest history of winning out the success for all the people....